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Fortunately, this also fixes the inconsistencies created with the different ways we've been using the ''bench'' parameter. Instead of "Metalwork Bench (either)", "Lvl. 2 Metalwork Bench or Electric Metalwork Bench", or "Tool Bench Lvl. 5/Train Yard", this standardizes it into the format "Lvl. # (Bench) or (Bench)". And, if that ever needs to be changed, we only have to change the template, instead of the 180+ pages that use the template. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:44, 17 July 2014 (MDT)
Fortunately, this also fixes the inconsistencies created with the different ways we've been using the ''bench'' parameter. Instead of "Metalwork Bench (either)", "Lvl. 2 Metalwork Bench or Electric Metalwork Bench", or "Tool Bench Lvl. 5/Train Yard", this standardizes it into the format "Lvl. # (Bench) or (Bench)". And, if that ever needs to be changed, we only have to change the template, instead of the 180+ pages that use the template. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:44, 17 July 2014 (MDT)
:The closest thing I can see to a problem is when there's some difference (such as rush cost) between two benches, and that's easily handled by listing two different crafting tables. --[[User:McClaw|McClaw]] ([[User talk:McClaw|talk]]) 07:21, 18 July 2014 (MDT)

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Links to Icons on Tables

Great idea on adding the link tags to all the icons on the tables for all the crafting surfaces. Cdrras (talk) 09:56, 26 February 2013 (MST)

I thought it was needed, and I found out how from the MediaWiki "How To" guide. It's always nice to be able to reference what you find. Also placeholders for crafting surface versions. --McClaw (talk) 09:59, 26 February 2013 (MST)

Admin

You ought to consider throwing your name in to be an Admin. Unfortunately, I am not a Bureaucrat so I can't promote you, but since you are a major contributor, I believe it would benefit you to have the additional privileges. It makes things a lot easier at times. I think MintYogi is the only Bureaucrat (and I'm assuming what would be his Admin account), so if you are interested, I would throw your name into the section on the Main Page talk page and hopefully we will promote you whenever he is on again. Just a thought! Cdrras (talk) 10:11, 26 February 2013 (MST)

Cycling Gem Pickaxe Big

Gonna make it? Or is the page fine as it is now? --Abcboy (talk) 14:33, 30 April 2013 (MDT)

I can tolerate the page the way it is. Besides, I got my images from the pictures that show up in front of the Tool Bench when crafting. I haven't been able to get useful ones for the gem pickaxes off the portal. --McClaw (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2013 (MDT)

Another category

Category:Large item icons is sad. You haven't been putting images in it. --Abcboy (talk) 15:09, 25 October 2013 (MDT)

Heh. I've considered myself luck to remember putting any of them in categories! --McClaw (talk) 20:33, 25 October 2013 (MDT)

Tools

See here. It really is a mess. --Abcboy (talk) 23:54, 6 January 2014 (MST)

Also, have you looked at Help:Contents recently? I made some changes.
Also, some issues with levels. Levels are probably written at least three times in an article. Infobox, text thingy in Where Found, and in every Craft box. A flywheel is said to be crafted at a "Workbench Level 3", "workbench (of level 3)", and "Workbench Lvl 3" in each of those places. Other articles have things like "Lvl. 2 Press", "level 2 press", and "Lvl. 2 Press". Even bench naming is inconsistent. Should it be "Metalwork Bench (either)" in any of those places or just "Metalwork Bench" with its electric counterpart implied?
Should Tool be in Category:Tool (and more)? If so, how should it be put in? We can make it placed first by alphabetizing it with *. --Abcboy (talk) 08:13, 7 January 2014 (MST)
The "Tool" article probably should be in the category. --McClaw (talk) 08:31, 7 January 2014 (MST)
I've found a way to create the dyed item images without screenshotting each individually. See here. It takes me some time to do them still. --Abcboy (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2014 (MST)
They look good. I should dig out the images I stashed for things like that. --McClaw (talk) 07:46, 8 January 2014 (MST)
Look at the source for Template:Pigment. There's walls of code to automate a bunch of stuff. Those swatches on the pigment lists are all automated. --Abcboy (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2014 (MST)

Death

There are three ways I can think of to handle death:

  • Have an article on "Death" and on the "Death Bar" (anything else better?)
  • Have an article on "Death Bar" and redirect death there
  • Have an article on "Death Star" an redirect both there
  • Have an article on "Death" and redirect "Death Bar" there

I personally think option 1 is best, although there may be some repeated information. --Abcboy (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2014 (MDT)

Repeated information shouldn't be a big problem, so long as it isn't excessive. Better a short paragraph than having to move to a new page for something simple. --McClaw (talk) 09:04, 5 April 2014 (MDT)
Okay. --Abcboy (talk) 10:26, 5 April 2014 (MDT)

Japanese wiki

I'm not a lawyer. But, this is our license. Go read it.

Here is the issue. They are practically copying our articles in whole. They're allowed to adapt, yes, but I see no attribution. Could that be an issue? I would prefer to bring it up with MintYogi, but he's practically never here, unfortunately. --Abcboy (talk) 10:26, 5 April 2014 (MDT)

It might fall under "Share." Is there a wiki-wide attribution? And you're right that the local admin is the one that should make an official complaint (if needed); even as mods we probably don't have the authority to do more than comment. --McClaw (talk) 11:27, 5 April 2014 (MDT)
Not seeing any attribution anywhere on any page. (Unfortunately, I can't read Japanese. Google can somewhat.) --Abcboy (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2014 (MDT)
Okay, they've since added that they are a translated version of this wiki on their main page. "Welcome to The Blockheads Japan Wiki! This wiki is English wiki [linking here] translated.

This wiki has been retouched and is maintained by volunteers." Issue resolved. --Abcboy (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2014 (MDT)

Column and stairs

I have all the images ready to make one of the animated icons. What order should the images be in though? Trading portal order? Alphabetical? --Abcboy (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2014 (MDT)

Hm. Lots of options. I'd probably put them in order as: wood / brick / (stonemason's bench) / (metalwork bench). --McClaw (talk) 19:14, 5 April 2014‎
I've uploaded one of them the rest will have to wait since I'm out of town. --Abcboy (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2014 (MDT)

New Craft template

Here's some examples of it in use. Opinions? The primary issue in implementing it is that it requires two additional parameters: level and bench2, while bench has to be changed to be compatible. Here's an example of the code changes:

Currently:

...
|Output=Crowbar
|Bench=Tool Bench Lvl. 5/Train Yard
|Name1=Steel Ingot
...

This has to change to:

...
|Output=Crowbar
|Level=5
|Bench=Tool Bench
|Bench2=Train Yard
|Name1=Steel Ingot
...

Fortunately, this also fixes the inconsistencies created with the different ways we've been using the bench parameter. Instead of "Metalwork Bench (either)", "Lvl. 2 Metalwork Bench or Electric Metalwork Bench", or "Tool Bench Lvl. 5/Train Yard", this standardizes it into the format "Lvl. # (Bench) or (Bench)". And, if that ever needs to be changed, we only have to change the template, instead of the 180+ pages that use the template. --Abcboy (talk) 21:44, 17 July 2014 (MDT)

The closest thing I can see to a problem is when there's some difference (such as rush cost) between two benches, and that's easily handled by listing two different crafting tables. --McClaw (talk) 07:21, 18 July 2014 (MDT)